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	<title>Comments for A few words about Kaiser Permanente and eKaiser Insurance</title>
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		<title>Comment on Kaiser Permanente doctor commits perjury by JC</title>
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		<dc:creator>JC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 01:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Committing perjury isn&#039;t helping anyone, it&#039;s a crime. Good people do make bad choices sometimes, but to say that he lost his freedom because he &quot;helped&quot; someone is not an accurate statement. He lost his freedom because he committed a crime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Committing perjury isn&#8217;t helping anyone, it&#8217;s a crime. Good people do make bad choices sometimes, but to say that he lost his freedom because he &#8220;helped&#8221; someone is not an accurate statement. He lost his freedom because he committed a crime.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Kaiser Permanente doctor commits perjury by Anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr Barker is a good man who has helped alot  of people. Unfortunately this time it  cost him his freedom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr Barker is a good man who has helped alot  of people. Unfortunately this time it  cost him his freedom.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Kaiser Permanente doctor commits perjury by JC</title>
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		<dc:creator>JC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 04:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He got 6 months in prison.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He got 6 months in prison.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Amazing Food Detective bombs with gamers by Insurance Benefits Group</title>
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		<dc:creator>Insurance Benefits Group</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 05:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There has been some rhetoric about KP moving into FL. It&#039;s an 800lb gorilla out west. We&#039;ll see what happens. Que sera sera

Michael R. Hrad</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There has been some rhetoric about KP moving into FL. It&#8217;s an 800lb gorilla out west. We&#8217;ll see what happens. Que sera sera</p>
<p>Michael R. Hrad</p>
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		<title>Comment on Kaiser Permanente doctor commits perjury by somewhat_anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>somewhat_anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bruce Barker was due to be sentenced in early February.  Does anyone know what happened?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce Barker was due to be sentenced in early February.  Does anyone know what happened?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Amazing Food Detective bombs with gamers by kkz</title>
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		<dc:creator>kkz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 22:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. The day the &quot;black plague&quot; is extinguished is the day Californians and all kaiser member/victims everywhere will be on the road to real wellness. I wonder why California refuses to accept what other states have long since realized. Well, we already know that in Ca our lives are worth no more than $250,000. They sure don&#039;t value life much out west, do they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. The day the &#8220;black plague&#8221; is extinguished is the day Californians and all kaiser member/victims everywhere will be on the road to real wellness. I wonder why California refuses to accept what other states have long since realized. Well, we already know that in Ca our lives are worth no more than $250,000. They sure don&#8217;t value life much out west, do they?</p>
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		<title>Comment on When is a non-profit not a non-profit? by Bridgett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bridgett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But really, who would want bottom of the barrel insurance such as kaiser? That money could be better spent, say for instance, actually providing care for the members they already have. I personally, wouldn&#039;t pay 2 cents a month for kaiser insurance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But really, who would want bottom of the barrel insurance such as kaiser? That money could be better spent, say for instance, actually providing care for the members they already have. I personally, wouldn&#8217;t pay 2 cents a month for kaiser insurance.</p>
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		<title>Comment on When is a non-profit not a non-profit? by JC</title>
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		<dc:creator>JC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 06:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right, and when premiums are lowered I&#039;ll eat this blog.

1/3 of Kaiser Permanente is comprised of the FOR PROFIT Permanente Medical Groups (the senior partner doctors are the shareholders). 50% of the profits go back to them in the form of bonuses and retirement benefits, creating an implied incentive to deny care. Only the health plan and hospitals are technically not-for-profit, and you&#039;re right, they can blow that money any way they want to...like on a disastrously wasteful EMR called HealthConnect, for instance.

For fun I divided $2.5  billion by $3,600 (a generous estimate of what it would cost to insure one individual for a year at $300/mo.) and got almost 700,000...that&#039;s right, nearly 3/4 of a million people could be insured with Kaiser&#039;s loose change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right, and when premiums are lowered I&#8217;ll eat this blog.</p>
<p>1/3 of Kaiser Permanente is comprised of the FOR PROFIT Permanente Medical Groups (the senior partner doctors are the shareholders). 50% of the profits go back to them in the form of bonuses and retirement benefits, creating an implied incentive to deny care. Only the health plan and hospitals are technically not-for-profit, and you&#8217;re right, they can blow that money any way they want to&#8230;like on a disastrously wasteful EMR called HealthConnect, for instance.</p>
<p>For fun I divided $2.5  billion by $3,600 (a generous estimate of what it would cost to insure one individual for a year at $300/mo.) and got almost 700,000&#8230;that&#8217;s right, nearly 3/4 of a million people could be insured with Kaiser&#8217;s loose change.</p>
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		<title>Comment on When is a non-profit not a non-profit? by anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 01:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So WHO profited?  Sure, people who work at Kaiser got paid their salary (sometimes BIG salaries, like at all BIG entities), but no one &quot;profited.&quot;  No shareholders earned dividends.  No stock holder investors sold their stock for a profit.  I think the money goes back into the business for improvements, research and lowering (not raising) member premiums.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So WHO profited?  Sure, people who work at Kaiser got paid their salary (sometimes BIG salaries, like at all BIG entities), but no one &#8220;profited.&#8221;  No shareholders earned dividends.  No stock holder investors sold their stock for a profit.  I think the money goes back into the business for improvements, research and lowering (not raising) member premiums.</p>
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